▶💬GuemaraThe Gemara relates: After Rav Naḥman exited the study hall, Ulla said to the remaining Sages in the study hall: In truth…
The Gemara relates: After Rav Naḥman exited the study hall, Ulla said to the remaining Sages in the study hall: In truth, this is what Rabbi Elazar said: A slave can be collected as payment even when collecting from the debtor’s orphans. Generally, when collecting a debt from the debtor’s orphans the creditor can collect only from the land that they inherited from their father, which is liened to the debt. Rabbi Elazar rules that a creditor can also collect from the slaves they inherited, as he holds that in this regard, the legal status of slaves is like that of land. Ulla did not reveal this fact to Rav Naḥman, as he knew that Rav Naḥman disagreed and held that the legal status of slaves is like that of movable property. When he heard of Ulla’s revelation, Rav Naḥman said: Ulla evaded me, as had he told me Rabbi Elazar’s full opinion, I would have brought proofs against his opinion.
The Gemara relates: There was an incident in Neharde’a, and the judges of Neharde’a collected, on behalf of a creditor, slaves that orphans had inherited from the debtor. There was an incident in Pumbedita, and Rav Ḥana bar Bizna collected slaves from orphans as repayment for a debt. Rav Naḥman said to those judges: Go and return those slaves to the orphans, and if you do not do so, we will collect the value of the slaves from the proceeds of your own mansions in order to compensate the orphans for their loss, as you have made an elementary mistake in your ruling and therefore you are responsible to rectify it.
Rava said to Rav Naḥman: There is Ulla, there is Rabbi Elazar, there are the judges of Neharde’a, and there is Rav Ḥana bar Bizna, all of whom ruled based on the assumption that the legal status of slaves is like that of land. In accordance with whose opinion does the Master, i.e., you, Rav Naḥman, hold?
Rav Naḥman said to him: I know a baraita that supports my opinion, as Avimi teaches: A document that prevents the Sabbatical Year from abrogating an outstanding debt [prosbol] takes effect upon a debt assumed by one who owns land, but a prosboldoes not take effect upon a debt assumed by one who owns slaves of the debtor. And movable property is acquired together with the land one acquires through the act of acquisition performed on the land, but movable property cannot be acquired together with the slaves that one acquires. Both halakhot assume that in these cases the legal status of slaves is not like that of land.
The Gemara suggests: Let us say that this issue is the subject of a dispute between tanna’im in the following baraitot.
One baraita teaches: If one sold slaves and land to a buyer and the buyer took possession of the slaves alone, he does not thereby acquire the land. If he took possession of the land alone, he does not thereby acquire the slaves. If one sold land and movable property to a buyer and the buyer took possession of the land alone, he thereby also acquires the movable property. If he took possession of the movable property alone, he does not thereby acquire the land. If one sold slaves and movable property to a buyer and the buyer took possession of the slaves alone, he does not thereby acquire the movable property. If he took possession of the movable property alone, he does not thereby acquire the slaves.But isn’t it taught in another baraita: If the buyer took possession of the slaves alone, he thereby also acquires the movable property? This directly contradicts the ruling in the parallel clause of the previous baraita.
What, is it not the case that it is about this that they disagree, that one Sage, the tanna of the second baraita, holds that the legal status of slaves is like that of land, and the other Sage, the tanna of the first baraita, holds that the legal status of slaves is like that of movable property?
The Gemara rejects this: Rav Ika, son of Rav Ami, said: According to everyone, the legal status of slaves is generally like that of land, and therefore, that which is taught in the second baraita, that by taking possession of the slaves he also acquires the movable property, is properly understood. And that which is taught in the first baraita, that in such a case he does not acquire the movable property, the reason for this ruling is that the tanna of that baraita holds that in order for movable property to be acquired together with land, we require that he acquire land similar to “fortified cities in Judea” (II Chronicles 21:3), which do not move around. Slaves, even if their legal status is generally like that of land, do not fulfill this requirement.
The reason behind the need for land to be like the “fortified cities in Judea” is that the halakha that one can acquire movable property together with land is derived from this verse, as we learned in a mishna (Kiddushin 26a): Property that does not serve as a guarantee, i.e., movable property, is acquired together with property that does serve as a guarantee, i.e., land, be it through the buyer giving money to the seller, by the seller giving the buyer a bill of sale, or by the buyer performing an act of taking possession. The Gemara asks: From where is this matter derived? Ḥizkiyya said: As the verse states: “And their father gave them great gifts, of silver, and of gold, and of precious things, with fortified cities in Judea” (II Chronicles 21:3). The verse indicates that the acquisition of the movable property was done together with that of the cities of Judea.
There are those who say that Rav Ika stated a different answer: Rav Ika, son of Rav Ami, said: According to everyone, the legal status of slaves is generally like that of movable property, and therefore, that which is taught in the first baraita, that by taking possession of the slaves he does not also acquire the movable property, is properly understood. And that which is taught in the second baraita, that in such a case he acquires the movable property, applies to a case in which at the moment the slave was acquired, the movable property was still upon him, e.g., the slave was holding it, and it could therefore be acquired together with the slave. This is because one’s slave is considered like one’s courtyard, and any item that is placed within it is acquired for its owner.
The Gemara asks: But even if the movable property was still upon him, what of it? Even if one claims a slave is like a courtyard, he is a mobile courtyard, and a mobile courtyard does not acquire items placed upon it. And if you would say that the case is one where the slave is standing at the time of the transaction, that is still insufficient, as didn’t Rava say: Anything that does not acquire when moving also does not acquire when it is standing or sitting. The fact that the slave can move gives him the status of a mobile courtyard, regardless if he is currently moving or not.
The Gemara concludes: And the halakha is that where a slave is bound up and is unable to walk, his status is like that of an immobile courtyard, and his master will acquire anything that is placed upon him at that time.
The Gemara presents another contradiction to the first baraita cited above, which explicitly states that one cannot acquire slaves by taking possession of land: But isn’t it taught in another baraita: If he took possession of the land alone, he thereby also acquires the slaves?
The Gemara resolves the contradiction: There, in the baraita just cited, the case is one where the slaves are standing within the borders of the land that was acquired.
The Gemara notes: By inference, the ruling of this first baraita, which states that he does not acquire the slaves, is stated with regard to a case where they are not standing within the borders of the land that was acquired.
This works out well according to that second formulation of that which Rav Ika, son of Rav Ami, said, that the legal status of slaves is like that of movable property. This is the reason that if the slaves are standing within the borders of the land, yes, they are acquired together with the land, but if not, no, they are not acquired. The Gemara assumes that movable property is acquired together with land only if at the time of the acquisition it is placed upon the land.
But according to that first formulation of that which Rav Ika, son of Rav Ami, said, that the legal status of slaves is like that of land, why do I need the slaves to be standing within the borders of the land? As doesn’t Shmuel say: If someone sold him ten fields, located in ten different countries, once he takes possession of one of them, he has acquired all of them? If the legal status of slaves is like that of land, then the same principle should apply to them, and it should be unnecessary for them to be standing within the land’s borders.
The Gemara reconsiders: But even according to your reasoning, one can ask: According to the second formulation of that which Rav Ika, son of Rav Ami, said, that the legal status of slaves is like that of movable property, why do I need the slaves to be standing within the borders of the land?
▶🇫🇷Résumé en françaisLa Guemara relate : Après que Rav Naḥman soit sorti de la salle d’étude, Ulla dit aux Sages restants dans la salle d’étu…
La Guemara relate : Après que Rav Naḥman soit sorti de la salle d’étude, Ulla dit aux Sages restants dans la salle d’étude : En vérité, ceci est ce que Rabbi Elazar a dit : Un esclave peut être recueilli comme paiement même lorsqu’on recueille auprès desorphelins du débiteur. Généralement, lorsqu’on recueille une dette auprès des orphelins du débiteur, le créancier ne peut recueillir que sur la terre qu’ils ont héritée de leur père, laquelle est grevée de la dette. Rabbi Elazar statue qu’un créancier peut aussi recueillir sur les esclaves qu’ils ont hérités, car il tient qu’à cet égard, le statut juridique des esclaves est comme celui de la terre. Ulla ne révéla pas ce fait à Rav Naḥman, car il savait que Rav Naḥman était en désaccord et tenait que le statut juridique des esclaves est comme celui des biens meubles. Lorsqu’il entendit la révélation d’Ulla, Rav Naḥman dit : Ulla m’a éludé, car s’il m’avait dit l’opinion complète de Rabbi Elazar, j’aurais apporté des preuves contre son opinion.
La Guemara relate : Il y eut un incident à Neharde’a, et les juges de Neharde’a recueillirent, au nom d’un créancier, des esclaves que les orphelins avaient hérités du débiteur. Il y eut un incident à Pumbedita, et Rav Ḥana bar Bizna recueillit des esclaves auprès des orphelins comme remboursement d’une dette. Rav Naḥman leur dit : Allez et rendez ces esclaves aux orphelins, et si vous ne le faites pas, nous recueillerons la valeur des esclaves sur le produit de vos propres demeures afin de compenser les orphelins pour leur perte, car vous avez commis une erreur élémentaire dans votre décision et vous êtes donc responsables de la rectifier.
Rava dit à Rav Naḥman : Il y a Ulla, il y a Rabbi Elazar, il y a les juges de Neharde’a, et il y a Rav Ḥana bar Bizna, tous ayant statué sur la base de l’hypothèse que le statut juridique des esclaves est comme celui de la terre. Selon l’opinion de qui le Maître, c’est-à-dire toi, Rav Naḥman, tient-il ?
Rav Naḥman lui dit : Je connais une baraita qui soutient mon opinion, comme Avimi enseigne : Un document qui empêche l’année sabbatique d’abroger une dette impayée [prosbol] prend effet sur une dette assumée par celui qui possède de la terre, mais un prosbolne prend pas effet sur une dette assumée par celui qui possède des esclaves du débiteur. Et les biens meubles sont acquis avec la terre que l’on acquiert par l’acte d’acquisition effectué sur la terre, mais les biens meubles ne peuvent pas être acquis avec les esclaves que l’on acquiert. Ces deux halakhot supposent que dans ces cas, le statut juridique des esclaves n’est pas comme celui de la terre.
La Guemara suggère : Disons que cette question est le sujet d’un différend entre tanna’im dans les baraitot suivantes.
Une baraita enseigne : Si quelqu’un a vendu des esclaves et de la terre à un acheteur et que l’acheteur a pris possession des esclaves seuls, il n’acquiert pas par là laterre. S’il a pris possession de la terre seule, il n’acquiert pas par là les esclaves. Si quelqu’un a vendu de la terre et des biens meubles à un acheteur et que l’acheteur a pris possession de la terre seule, il acquiert par là aussi les biens meubles. S’il a pris possession des biens meubles seuls, il n’acquiert pas par là la terre. Si quelqu’un a vendu des esclaves et des biens meubles à un acheteur et que l’acheteur a pris possession des esclaves seuls, il n’acquiert pas par là les biens meubles. S’il a pris possession des biens meubles seuls, il n’acquiert pas par là les esclaves.Mais n’est-il pas enseigné dans une autre baraita : Si l’acheteur a pris possession des esclaves seuls, il acquiert par là aussi les biens meubles ? Cela contredit directement la décision dans la clause parallèle de la baraita précédente.
Quoi, n’est-ce pas le cas que c’est à propos de cela que ils sont en désaccord, que un Sage, le tanna de la deuxième baraita, tient que le statut juridique des esclaves est comme celui de la terre, et l’autre Sage, le tanna de la première baraita, tient que le statut juridique des esclaves est comme celui des biens meubles ?
La Guemara rejette cela : Rav Ika, fils de Rav Ami, dit : Selon tout le monde, le statut juridique des esclaves est généralement comme celui de la terre, et par conséquent, ce qui est enseigné dans la deuxième baraita, qu’en prenant possession des esclaves ilacquiert aussi les biens meubles, est correctement compris. Et ce qui est enseigné dans la première baraita, que dans un tel cas il n’acquiert pas les biens meubles, la raison de cette décision est que le tanna de cette baraita tient que pour que les biens meubles soient acquis avec la terre, nous exigeons qu’il acquière une terre semblable aux “villes fortifiées de Juda” (II Chroniques 21:3), qui ne se déplacent pas. Les esclaves, même si leur statut juridique est généralement comme celui de la terre, ne remplissent pas cette exigence.
La raison derrière le besoin que la terre soit comme les “villes fortifiées de Juda” est que la halakha selon laquelle on peut acquérir des biens meubles avec la terre est dérivée de ce verset, comme nous avons appris dans une mishna (Kiddushin 26a) : Les biens qui ne servent pas de garantie, c’est-à-dire les biens meubles, sont acquis avec les biens qui servent de garantie, c’est-à-dire la terre, que ce soit par le don d’argent de l’acheteur au vendeur, par le vendeur donnant à l’acheteur un acte de vente, ou par l’acheteur effectuant un acte de prise de possession. La Guemara demande : D’où cette chose est-elle dérivée ? Ḥizkiyya dit : Comme le verset le dit : “Et leur père leur donna de grands dons, de
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▶✝️Réponse ScripturaLévitique 25:39-46 assimile l'esclave hébreu à une possession terrienne ; le débat entre Rav Naḥman et Rabbi Elazar sur …
Lévitique 25:39-46 assimile l'esclave hébreu à une possession terrienne ; le débat entre Rav Naḥman et Rabbi Elazar sur la saisie chez les orphelins reflète cette tension biblique, résolue en Christ qui rachète l'esclave pour en faire fils (Galates 4:5-7).
Sans Jésus, vous êtes perdu. Mais Christ est mort pour vos péchés et il est ressuscité : recevez-le avant qu'il ne soit trop tard. « Si tu confesses de ta bouche le Seigneur Jésus, et si tu crois dans ton cœur que Dieu l'a ressuscité des morts, tu seras sauvé. » — Romains 10:9